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W: We were writing a hypertext together, and I thought that was, really— D: Maybe that’s what we should be talking about. W: Not only writing something together, but writing a hypertext together. These are two, um, kind of new ideas, that I don’t know of, that there being a lot of discourse surrounding, at least not discourse I’ve read— S: I think—It’s actually been like thoroughly theorized. It’s one of those things where it’s almost been theorized outpacing the— W: Hypertext? S: Yeah. Hypertext is almost an example of criticism preceding the publication of the works which the criticism describes. In an interesting way, because there hasn’t really been—I mean I guess Michael Joyce does some interesting things, uh, who else? Mark Amerika did a big hypertext project. Didn’t really, ah, turn me on, but… but I mean there needs to be new hypertext, if the thing is gonna be real… it does raise some interesting textual/consciousness issues. W: Maybe we should do some hypertext criticism of our current… hyper… text, um— S: I suppose that would be sort of a mini-preparation for the whole anthology project. W: Yeah, and it would be— D: Already, I can tell you that our hypertext is critiquing regular hypertext. Because—despite hypertext’s pretensions towards liberating literature from linear time, and from authoritative foundationalism, in fact, every hypertext that I know of has only one author, anyway. Even though that author sets up multiple paths, it really comes down to a singular creator, seperate from the reader, blah blah blah. The same old Western bullshit. [William laughs.] S: B.S.! W: Don’t say bullshit. That’s bad. S: No seriously. You can’t say—that—on the radio, right? D: No you can’t. No you can’t. W: Shit fuck piss cunt cocksucker motherfucker and tits. That’s not the exact list, but it’s pretty close. S: Okay, well this is gonna get, I mean you have the technology to sample this thing, to take little bits— W: Technically, yeah. But— D: But that takes time— W: Will I bother? I’ll probably choose a chunk—I’ll probably keep it forever, first of all, and I’ll also choose part to play on the radio—maybe none. I can see that ah— S: Although I do want you to run these promo slots— W: For the book that we… haven’t made yet? S: For the book we haven’t made yet—I think that that’s part of the whole project. I mean, now, okay, I could be going out on a limb here—how do you feel about publicizing the project before it has an actuality? [William gets the shits and giggles.] D: I think that it’s perfectly in keeping with the whole spirit of the project. I mean, we were anticipating criticism before the literature. Why not anticipate publicity before the criticism? S: I think that this is something that goes on in the world, maybe way too much, where something gets buzzed before it is an actual thing. But I think, in this case… it’s in the interests of Art. And the other thing— which Art is important—and the other thing is, ah— we do have this book, actually— D: Exactly. S: We do have the actual anthology. D: —We do have the anthology. S: We have all the texts for the anthology. D: —That’s true. S: We spent some time today actually selecting many of the texts— D: —That process has already begun. S: There’s some refinements but—it’s pretty much gonna go. The Unknown Anthology. D: It will be completed before the publicity reaches the ears of the waiting public. |
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